Those Damned Greedy Old People

Sitting here typing a letter to my brother-in-law and I have The Beltway Boys (Fox News) on my TiVo in the background. Fred Barnes is discussing what's wrong with Social Security.

"The way I think the White House wants to deal with it is to hold the growth, well above inflation, of Social Security benefits. In other words, and say look anybody that we will guarantee the current level of benefits but not this growth beyond inflation which has been has made has put Social Security in such a financial hole all these years."

Cue Mort Kondracke doing what he does best on this show. Chin out, staring at Fred and nodding, the little lap dog.

Earlier this evening, I spoke with my 80 year old Mom. She gets $434.00 from Social Security each month. Her "raise" (as she laughingly calls it every year) will be a whopping $1.00. That's a whopping 0.23% increase. I'm not even going to bother looking into inflation in 2004. I somehow expect it was above one quarter of one percent.

The long knives are out for this program and Charles Schwab is just licking his chops for the business.



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This is a new conservative propaganda line (none / 0)

This editorial by Rich Lowry ran in my local O.C. Register "Young People Be Damned!" The greedy AARP. linked text

It's a pure distortion of AARP's position and the issue of privatizing Social Security. The latest conservative talking point is that seniors are greedy and AARP is bad. The entire editorial is name calling and demonizing AARP as well as distoring the issues. I wrote a letter to the editor responding to this that will never get printed. I thought the most interesting point about his editorial is that Lowry attacks AARP's position but never actually denies that Bush's privatization will reduce benefits for seniors and boost profits for Wall Street.

His stirring conclusion gives you the main idea:

Seniors tend to be opposed to change, and they don't, for understandable reasons, care about Social Security's dismal rate of return for workers who will retire decades from now. Fine. Preserve the current system for seniors, but let young workers experiment with private accounts. Who can object to that -- with the exception, of course, of a certain greedy, scaremongering, reactionary lobby group?

I had to wonder if even conservative seniors wouldn't be offended by Lowry's attack editorial. Well, outside of Orange County California anyway.

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Dec 12, 2004 at 02:53:57 PM EST

JB, don't get sucked in by "the game" (none / 0)

You are a "liberal" who is conservative when it comes to social security. You aren't the only one. Nor is this the only issue where "liberals" or "progressives" only seek to preserve gains made by the heroes of the past (FDR, JFK). Lowry's claim that the young are getting crushed (economically, spiritually) is factually true. What to do about it can be disputed, but the reality cannot.

By the time a man in our society is economically ready for marriage, he will be in his mid thirties. Such a man will not look to marry someone his own age if he wishes to have children. He, perhaps following instinct, will seek a youger, "prettier" woman who's eggs are fresher. Also a young woman still retains the option if having many offspring, if that option appeals to the man.

The woman who waits till she's over thirty to discover that she wants kids (after 4 billion years of evolution, would YOU call it quits?) will probably squeeze out the obligatory child, maybe two, yet the biological replacement rate is 2.1. If she "has a career", the child is shunted off into a lifetime of stranger-filled institutions. Yet if she does not, the child may (perhaps mercifully) be deprived of a middle-class lifestyle.

When we survey the social family, we find that most misery experienced by our brothers and sisters is self-inflicted, deriving mostly from the maladjustment of man and civilization. The resultant mayhem of the human animal dwarfs the difficulties coming our way from mere nature.

Why? Is it perhaps some imbalance in how we govern ourselves? When we discuss social security, what are we discussing if not the flow of energy from the young to the old? Doesn't it strike you as self-evident that the way of nature is for the flow of energy to be from the old to the young, the flow of time from the past to the future?

"Liberals" having given up completely on thought, prefering knee-jerk reflexes instead, have ceded the battlefield to those who offer a return to a system that worked in the past: perhaps they mean 1950, perhaps they mean 1910, or perhaps they have a more distant age in mind.

Isn't it also self-evident that if a system was perfect in some golden age of the past, it cannot also be perfect for our current situation? Each day you wake up is an unprecedented situation. There have never been more people. Never before have people lived as long. Technology continues to dazzle. I routinely use a supercomputer. It means nothing for me to make novel genes. I have started a project that will try to build upon the technology that ALREADY can translate human thought into computer commands. Do we have the answers for how to live today? Clearly not.

And even if we had the answer, by the time we effected change in the system our "perfect" solution would have become maladaptive. 60 million people essentially said they would rather boldly march to their doom behind a sure-footed leader (Bush), then at least entertain the chance of muddling-through using intelligence and caution (Kerry).

Why do I lament? What would I like you to come away with? It is simply that disputes about social security etc. are trivial in the face of the epochal crisis that we are in. On this planet exists several strata of civilization: nomads, farmers, industrial people, and now the "information" people, like myself. Which cultural mindset will be the guiding light into the future? Will it be the argicultural "Red" states? Will it be the "Blue" defenders of industrial age solutions like social security, labor unions, and national health care? Who represents the current way of life? Who represents the future?

My generation is not even replacing itself! The rich bastards and the concentration of wealth, the loss of jobs to countries with agricultural-age family sizes, and the psychological plague which leads us to skyrocketing diviorce rates, declining marriage rates, drug use and alchohol abuse. We are being genocided. If Hitler passed a law saying Jews would only be allowed to have two children, everyone would AT ONCE see that it was genocide. But if our own government with culture to boot, effects the same result, everyone cheers for a moment before they go back to debating social security!

Qui non proficit, deficit: He who does not advance, declines. If you do not have an answer for the imbalances and unsustainable practices you condemn us to doom. It isn't worth your breath to hunt the internet for examples of "why the other guy is wrong". You, or someone, needs to be right, or else we are doomed.

by Paul Goodman on Sun Dec 12, 2004 at 07:07:16 PM EST

"the game" (none / 0)

Paul, you need to relax. Take long, deep, slow breaths and count to 100. That's right, 26, 27, 28, keep going, slow, deep breaths, 52, 53, 54, don't stop, deeep breaths, long slooow breaths, 98, 99, 100. There. Now maybe we can have a rational discussion. You need to throw your television in the dumpster, stop listening to talk radio and stay off the internet for at least 30 days.

The world is not black and white, it is various shades of grey. America is not red states and blue states, it is purple linked text  One of the main problems we have as a culture is the false extremist dichotomies painted by politicians to get votes and the media to sell newspapers, i.e. get advertising revenue. "The game" being played is the hype of apocalyptic doom on all sides.

I don't believe I'm getting sucked in by a "game" and I didn't hunt the internet for Lowry's editorial. It was printed in my local paper. Conservative scare mongering is "the game" being played. We need to make adjustments to Social Security, but running trillions of dollars in deficits to finance privatization is not a "conservative" position.

For example, I question Ted Kennedy's position that we cannot adjust Social Security payments to wealthy retirees because it would erode the political base of support for the program. There are other reasonable adjustments we can make to Social Security that would preserve it.

You claim the young are getting economically and spiritually crushed. Don't buy into the hype. Young people have always faced economic and spiritual challenges. For that matter, everybody faces economic and spiritual challenges every day. It's called life.

What are the forces you believe are crushing you economically and spiritually? Hyper capitalism run amock? A tax system that favors the ultra-wealthy? Or the oppressive taxation of the welfare state? Hollywood or maybe modernism itself?

Liberals are not any more prone to knee jerk reflexes than anyone else. Civilizations and man have always been maladjusted. It's the nature of the beast. We muddle through. If it is necessary for someone to have the answers to the imbalances and unsustainable practices that doom us I guess it might as well be me. Just call me the answer man. Although, I think Jeff Biernbaum on Faux News already claims that title. OK, call me the Answer Buddah. All problems solved, 5 cents.

by Gary Boatwright on Mon Dec 13, 2004 at 12:20:23 AM EST
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The AARP really lost (none / 0)

a lot of credibility with the seniors after that whole drug thing.  Both my parents (retired and remarried) each cancelled their memberships in discussed.

by DreamOfPeace on Sun Dec 12, 2004 at 08:31:26 PM EST


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